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Sandra's sword came to stop as she finished the drill, for several seconds she just stood there panting. 

    Whack! A walnut bounced off chest. 

    "Return to on guard. High inside. You're stalling" Diana stood about 8 feet away, conveniently out of striking range, with her long sword resting on her right shoulder. In her left hand was fistful of walnuts. 

    Sandra looked at her instructor/tormentor. "Look. Why don't we take a 5 minute break and then..."

    Whack! Another walnut bounced off the squirrel's nose.

     "Talking is a form of stalling. Return to on guard. High inside."

      "Throwing a walnut at me is not doing much to motivat...."

    Whack! Whack! Two walnuts bounced off her head. 

    "Does two of them do the trick?" Grinned her teacher. 

   "Slowly Sandra came back on guard. The light, beautifully balanced long sword that she'd started her practice session with now felt like an anchor in her hands. The blade trembled as her muscles protested the abuse. The pleasant morning sun was a blazing furnace now. 

   Undoubtedly the result of some hideous magic that Diana has cast. Thought the squirrel. 

    Whack! Another walnut hit Sandra in the chest. 

   "Your point is dropping! Bring it up!" Said the vixen

    A patron reward for :iconrebelsqurl: I've drawn Diana and Sandra in the past for him,  A good group by Baron-Engel  In, out of the elements by Baron-Engel  Ranger Diana 01 by Baron-Engel but this is the first time I've had them doing sword work. Plus I got break out my copy of Talhoffer and Medieval Swordsmanship, Illustrated Methods and Techniques for reference.

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:iconamtrak:
AMTRAK Featured By Owner 2 days ago
A stamina thing.
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:iconbaron-engel:
Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Yes it is.
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:iconamtrak:
AMTRAK Featured By Owner 2 days ago
We know it so.
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:iconarmyfortomorrow:
ArmyForTomorrow Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
These sword drills better include how to end their opponent rightly.
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FantasyRebirth96 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Well I say this is very well done here! Looks great from top to bottom~
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:iconwebsplorer:
websplorer Featured By Owner 3 days ago
The real question is: do they know how to end their opponent rightly by throwing the pommel of their swords?
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:iconarmyfortomorrow:
ArmyForTomorrow Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I see someone has been watching Skallagrim. 
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gizmo01 Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is this inspired by Thundercats?
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Monkeythechimp Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
nice stuff Baron!

If you want some in depth written understanding regarding sword play.

The guys of Dimicator do Illustrations depicting not only swordplay but smaller things like how a scabard is tied up.(www.facebook.com/2669344767734…)
Diffirent sword shield designs and how they are used all really interesting stuff. (www.facebook.com/2669344767734…)

lastly there's this Korean artist by the name of PIRATA who's done a book on swordplay but illustrated with anime girls!
(pbs.twimg.com/media/DU1TbQTUMA…)
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Monkeythechimp Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
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ubernoner Featured By Owner 3 days ago
I can only see two problems, one technical, and one pedagogical.

First, to deliver a Swerchau from Ochs, which is what it looks like Sandra is trying to do, she needs to compass step with her trailing foot as she strikes. In the above illustration, her hips are turned too far to the left to effectively step; it also causes her hands to be drawn behind her head relative to her opponent. If Diana were to strike a Krumphau (which is what Lichtenauer, and by extension Ringeck and Tallhoffer would say is the appropriate response) then Sandra's sword-point would be swatted down, and she would loose her right arm at the shoulder. 

Second, Sandra is a lefty, and Diana appears to be a righty, and that can cause no end of problems in instruction; but that's between Sandra and Diana.

Love the style. 
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timmainsson Featured By Owner 3 days ago
She's driving her nuts XD XD
(I should be ashamed...but no)
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LavaBatA1 Featured By Owner 3 days ago
The silly squirrel should have eaten the walnuts!
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:iconrexlare:
Rexlare Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Mastery over a blade takes more than years of practice. It requires sweat, tears and blood.
Though a fistful of walnuts was never mentioned in that philosophy.

Side note* Really like how you drew Diana's hair. Sleek and elegant and bounds off the light pretty well too.
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ardashir Featured By Owner 3 days ago
I used to own a copy of Talhoffer myself. The lessons were gorgeously illustrated and shockingly brutal!
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:iconbaron-engel:
Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Yes the Talhoffer pulls no punches.
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ardashir Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Well he was teaching people how to survive life-and-death fights. "Gentlemanly" conduct has little place there.
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drivernjax Featured By Owner 3 days ago
I gotta ask.  Do you do humans?  I ask because, if I ever can afford to be one of your patrons, I'd love to have a scene like this done of my human character, Mvilu Uatusun, training his close friend, My-Rora, a Mory (7.25' tall felid), in the finer points of swordsmanship.  If you don't do humans, I can always find another artist to do the art work for me.  BTW, am I seeing Sandra's hands correctly?  They look like their holding the sword incorrectly.  Maybe I don't know as much about holding a two-handed sword as I thought I did.
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Rexlare Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
*waves hand*
Hey, figured I'd use my knowledge on sword fighting to answer your second question.
About your question for if you're seeing the sword position correctly, the answer is yes.
Drawing people/anthro's holding swords correctly is a difficult thing by all means, and even if you tried to assume the pose now, you'd feel a slight clumsiness or discomfort, but that's just because of inexperience.
The technique being used appears to be a winding slash (Probably butchered the name of the technique), you hold the hilt under the guard with your in-dominate hand and your dominant on the hilt nearer to the pommel. And as you pull down your dominant hand, your other hand twists in the opposite direction. This causes your blade to do a downward slash to your dominant side with a great amount of speed and slicing power as all the momentum from the twist follows the blade.
It's also ridiculously fast to pull off for a practiced swordsman and is quite startling for the inexperienced to see how quickly the blade twists and changes its direction like the snap of a finger.

You can see this technique used by HEMA practitioners and masters, especially in Skallagrim videos if you're interested
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:iconbaron-engel:
Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh yes. I learned how to draw anthros by learning how to draw humans first.
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drivernjax Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Wonderful.  Right now, I can't afford to join your Patreon but, I will.  I love your art style and I'd love to see Mvilu and Rora done in your style, especially in sword training.
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:iconbaron-engel:
Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Well Patreon is not the only way to get a commission from me, but the moment my docket is closed. It will open again in the future though.
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webkilla Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
oh - love the stance! awesome
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:iconbaron-engel:
Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you.
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DragonStrider Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
AAAAAH SIMPLY GORGEOUS!!!

I love it when artists implement realistic techniques, simply sublime :heart:
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:iconbaron-engel:
Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
It makes the piece more believable in my eyes. Also I have found that if you make some effort to get details in a picture right then people who are in the know about the topic we'll appreciate it. Especially when it comes to the martial arts.
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DragonStrider Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Excellent logic. It is just a shame more people dont choose to approach it like that, especially when it comes to swords.
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:iconbaron-engel:
Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Also I have found that when contacting people in a particular profession, occupation, or genre that trying to learn the correct use of their vocabulary goes a long way towards getting to talk to you.
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DragonStrider Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I could recommend "The Knightly art of combat" it has quite a few nice treatuses and its written very understandingly based on the works of Italian masters I think.
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:iconbaron-engel:
Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Hmmm is it available on Amazon?
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:icondragonstrider:
DragonStrider Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Yessir, thats where I got it, though it was the German amazon but I highly doubt the US would be low on stocks, plus the recommended section might give something nice as well.

Or just simply look up some of the codexes on youtube like Fiore di Battaglia or Codex Wallerstein.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdF0Vj…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GoQlv…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn36Pb…

The fact that Hollywood dosent take advantage of this kind of style of fencing is just sad.

Now we got a new Robin Hood movie in the works and its.....crap

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ74sq…

Nice to see the Dubrovnik rented out some property to Nottingham, and glad to see their Golden Gate is comming along great, the Gucci and Versache the nobles wear must REALLY be raking in the dough,

Pardon the rant I just can't stand this.
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RebelSqurl Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Thanks for drawing my ranger ladies again, Baron. I never imagined Diana to be such a taskmaster! But she's right, Sandy needs to learn to fight under duress; it can mean the difference between life and death someday.

Love the narrative touch, btw! Love 
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Baron-Engel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Traditional Artist
Glad you like it.
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